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Sunday, July 29, 2007

Did Enoch Die? Scriptures say Yes...

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Is Enoch Still Alive?
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Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.


Genesis 5:24
World English Bible translation
By faith Enoch was taken so that he did not experience death; and "he was not found, because God had taken him." For it was attested before he was taken away that "he had pleased God."


Hebrews 11:5
New Revised Standard Version
All of these died in faith without having received the promises, but from a distance they saw and greeted them. They confessed that they were strangers and foreigners on the earth,


Hebrews 11:13
New Revised Standard Version
There have been many claims made based on the above scriptures. Some have claimed that Enoch is still alive in the flesh on another planet or somewhere; some have claimed that Enoch is still alive in some kind of supsended animation. But the most common claim is that Enoch was taken to heaven. All of these views claim that he never died. In truth, our conclusion, based simply on the scriptures, is that Enoch died, and was not found, without experiencing death, that is, he did not experience the normal process of dying.

In the World English Bible translation, Paul's statement in Hebrews 11:5 is rendered in this manner: "By faith, Enoch was translated, so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God translated him. For he has had testimony given to him that before his translation he had been well pleasing to God." The New Revised Standard Version demystifies what was said by saying that Enoch was taken. The Greek word rendered "translated" in the World English Bible simply means to change, transfer or to transpose. The King James Version renders it as "carried over" in Acts 7:16; as "removed" in Galatians 1:6; as "changed" Hebrews 7:12; and as "turning" in Jude 1:4.

The scripture does not say that Enoch did not die, but that he did not "see" death. [eidw = to see, (by impl. and in the perf. only) = to know (perfect used as pres.) -- John Meggison] Paul doesn't say that Enoch was translated into heaven, as many assume, nor does he say that he was translated from mortality into immortality as is also assumed by some. Paul certainly did not say anything about Enoch's soul being immortal at all. All he says is that Enoch did not go through the normal process of dying, thus he did not know death as other people do, and was "translated" into sheol -- the realm of death -- by God. Paul is not saying that every believer will be like Enoch, so as not to see death, nor does he say anything about an alleged immortal soul or immortal spirit sentiency going to heaven.

We know that Enoch did die, for Paul later says (Hebrews 11:13): "These all died in faith." And rather than saying that Enoch was taken to heaven, the Genesis account simply says that "he was not." (Genesis 5:24) Take as it is stated, one would conclude that if he was taken to heaven, that his mortal human fleshly body was taken to heaven, but this is absurd, sense flesh is of the earth, earthly, not of the heavenly. -- 1 Corinthians 15:39-41, 48.

Nothing in any of the scritpures says anything about Enoch's alleged immortal soul or spirit having anything to do with this, or anything about his alleged immortal soul or spirit going to heaven. Indeed, from the way it reads in Genesis, and if anyone would wish to entertain the thought that Enoch went to heaven, then it would appear that he went to heaven in his body of flesh. This, of course, is not at all what the scripture is saying. It simply says "he was not", which, without the Hellenistic influence of inherent immortality read into this, one would simply reason this to mean that he was in the realm of death: sheol.

We also read of all of the faithful of old, which includes Enoch (Hebrews 11:39,40): "These all, having had testimony given to them through their faith, didn't receive the promise, God having provided some better thing concerning us, so that apart from us they should not be made perfect."

The Bible says nothing about Enoch's being translated from life on earth to life somewhere else; it says "he was not." God *took* (Strong's #3947) him in death. -- Genesis 5:24

The Hebrew word (Strong's #3947) is used of being taken into death at Proverbs 24:11:

Rescue those who are being led away (Strong's #3947) to death! Indeed, hold back those who are staggering to the slaughter!

This is not saying these are being taken away to heaven, they are being taken away from life.

The same word (Strong's #3947) is used in Ezekiel 33:4:

then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet, and doesn't take warning, if the sword come, and take him away (Strong's 3947), his blood shall be on his own head.

Certainly this is not saying that God was taking these away to heaven, but rather they were taken away from life; they were to die.

Again, in Ezekiel 33:7:

But if the watchman sees the sword come, and doesn't blow the trumpet, and the people aren't warned, and the sword comes, and take any person from among them; he is taken away (Strong's 3947) in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

Likewise, this does not mean that these taken away are taken to heaven, but they are taken away from life.

In the New Testament, we read (Matthew 24:39):

and they didn't know until the flood came, and took them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Those destroyed in the flood of Noah's time were not taken to heaven, but they were taken away from life -- they entered into death.

Many believe that God took him into the realm of death to spare him the suffering that was coming upon due him to his faithfulness. His walk was not as the world around him, and we can be sure that he suffered persecution because of this. -- 2 Timothy 3:12.

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1 comments:

Unknown said...

It seems many have a problem with the Jesus (the living word) being eternal and that many were relating to the Father through the Living Word long before his physical ministry. Then again many do not deal with the Living God but a theological one instead and their interpretations of the bible are through carnal minds. How we interpret the bible is a test. Those who are taught by the Living God and not theology higher point of view from which to interpret the bible and creation.

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