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Sunday, December 11, 2011


Was wondering what the Doctrine of Imminence was, found this page.


by Sheila Sternberg

The generally accepted definition of imminence is that Jesus could come "at any moment" meaning there are NO signs to occur, NO prophecies to be fulfilled before Jesus returns for the rapture of the church. However...

Christ predicted the destruction of the Temple (Luke 21:6, Matt. 24:2, Mark 13:2.) He also predicted the coming of the Holy Spirit (Luke 24:49; Acts 1:8.) Could He return before these things were fulfilled?

Go here for the rest>> link

Saturday, July 16, 2011

Quote from yesterday, for today, from US President Coolidge 30th President of the United States

“It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern.  But that reasoning cannot be applied to this great charter.  If all men are created equal, that is final.  If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final.  If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final.  No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions.  If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people.  Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress.  They are reactionary.  Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.”

Sunday, June 5, 2011


“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”


Wednesday, June 1, 2011

IDF paratrooper returns to Kotel (Wailing Wall) to 'update' iconic photo

image It is among Israel’s most unforgettable images: a lone Israeli soldier, standing in awe at the base of the Western Wall in Jerusalem, moments after its liberation on June 7, 1967.

Read more> JPost

Monday, May 30, 2011

Isaac, The Name of Every Christian - Charles Leite

Why we as Christians are children of the promise.

Very good video.

If your interested in the audio only version you can get it here:


Thursday, May 19, 2011

Is the Church MISSING after Revelation 4?

This article done by Sheila Lewis Busby at   (go there, good stuff)

The words "church" and "churches" are absent from Rev. 4 - 22. Therefore, the church is absent from the earth during that time, right?

Well, are you aware that these same words are also absent from 2 Tim., Titus, Heb., 1 & 2 Peter, 1 & 2 John, and Jude? Is the church absent then too? Hmmm? Titus and 2 John don't even mention Christians, brother(s), brethern, or saint(s) (although they both mention the word "elect"). Does that mean those books don't even pertain to us? (Sounds silly doesn't it?)

Is it possible that the church is mentioned between Rev. 4 and 22?

  • Rev. 6:9-11; 20:4 tells about martyrs who are killed for their testimony of Jesus. Are they not part of the church?
  • Rev. 7:9-17 tells about a multitude in heaven whose robes have been washed in the blood of the Lamb (Christians?) whose shepherd will be the Lamb. These are in heaven, granted, but they have come out of the great tribulation, and are there after the sun, moon and stars go dark in the sixth seal. (See also Matt. 24:29-31, etc.)
  • Rev. 12:17; 13:5-7,10; 14:121 refer to the antichrist's authority over the "saints" and how those who endure will not take his mark. (Can anyone be a "saint" aside from the blood of Jesus? or are there those saved by the blood of Jesus, yet excluded from the church of Jesus Christ?)

    "I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star."

    Revelation 22:16

    Jesus said that the book of the Revelation is for the church. Why would He say that when we are gone, and the "tribulation saints" aren't even a part of the church? I would be very cautious about basing any theology on what the scripture does not say. 

    My final question is this, are you willing to stake the safety of your family during a time of "great tribulation" on this kind of theology? Think about it.


    Friday, May 13, 2011

    Nothing to see here, move along…

    There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

    -- John Adams Letter to Jonathan Jackson (2 October 1789)

    Friday, May 6, 2011

    Is Preterism True?

    ***** Audio links are restored, thank you for your patience. *******

    I’m going to post an audio study I captured from a chat room on Paltalk. I have posted the scriptures referenced in this study for your convenience and have tried to post them as they are referenced.

    There are four audio excerpts followed by the scripture talked about in that excerpt.
    RSNeaville is the teacher, you can find more audio and books at

    (oh yeah, I'm trying a new audio posting site, so let me know if any of this doesn’t play)

    "If you can show me one scripture why preterism is wrong, I would change, I would repent..." ~preterist

    “They don’t want to deal with scripture, they want to deal with innuendo.” ~RSNeaville

    Excerpt 1:

    Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning came out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    28 For wherever the carcass is, there will the vultures be gathered together.
    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
    John 19:37 And again another scripture says, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
    Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    Excerpt 2:

    “Who hopes for what he already has, looking for our redemption, groanings that cannot be uttered…”

    Philippians 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
    19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
    20 For our citizenship is in heaven; from which also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ:
    21 Who shall change our humble body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working by which he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
    1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them who are asleep, that you sorrow not, even as others who have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also who sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them who are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
    2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
    Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waits for the manifestation of the sons of God.
    20 For the creation was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope,
    21 Because the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22 For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now.
    23 And not only they, but ourselves also, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, that is, the redemption of our body.
    24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why does he yet hope for?
    25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
    26 Likewise the Spirit also helps our weakness:for we know not what we should pray for as we ought but the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    27 And he that searches the hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because he makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
    2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
    2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
    3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
    4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
    5 Now he that has made us for the same thing is God, who also has given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
    6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
    1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his abundant mercy has begotten us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
    4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, reserved in heaven for you,
    5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
    6 In which you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you are in heaviness through manifold trials:
    7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
    8 Whom having not seen, you love; in whom, though now you see him not, yet believing, you rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
    9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
    10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

    Excerpt 3:


    Preterist argument
    Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was angry: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
    8 Then said he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they who were bidden were not worthy.
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    Matthew 23:34 Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall you scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom you slew between the temple and the altar.
    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stone them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
    39 For I say unto you, you shall not see me again, till you shall say, Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.
    Parable of the wedding feast
    Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
    4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them who are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
    5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
    6 And the remnant took his servants, and treated them shamefully, and slew them.
    7 But when the king heard thereof, he was angry: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
    8 Then said he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they who were bidden were not worthy.
    9 Go you therefore into the highways, and as many as you shall find, bid to the marriage.
    10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
    Parable of the wheat and tares:
    Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man who sowed good seed in his field:
    25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
    26 But when the plant was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
    27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? from where then has it tares?
    28 He said unto them, An enemy has done this. The servants said unto him, Will you then that we go and gather them up?
    29 But he said, Nay; lest while you gather up the tares, you root up also the wheat with them.
    30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather you together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
    Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man who had not on a wedding garment:
    12 And he said unto him, Friend, how came you in here not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
    13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    Revelation 22:15 For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and fornicators, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.

    RSNeaville and the other fellow were using Matthew 24 so much I am just posting the first half of the chapter and underlining the verses they spoke of instead of picking them out individually.

    Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him to show him the buildings of the temple.
    2 And Jesus said unto them, See you not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
    3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the world?
    4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    6 And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in various places.
    8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
    9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
    10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold.
    13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
    14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
    15 When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him understand:)
    16 Then let them who are in Judea flee into the mountains:
    17 Let him who is on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house:
    18 Neither let him who is in the field return back to take his clothes.
    19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that nurse a child in those days!
    20 But pray you that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25 Behold, I have told you before.
    26 Therefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
    27 For as the lightning came out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    28 For wherever the carcass is, there will the vultures be gathered together.
    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When its branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near:
    33 So likewise you, when you shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    36 But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    42 Watch therefore: for you know not what hour your Lord does come.
    43 But know this, that if the owner of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
    44 Therefore be you also ready: for in such an hour as you think not the Son of man comes.
    45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord has made ruler over his household, to give them food at the proper time?
    46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he comes shall find so doing.
    47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
    48 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delays his coming;
    49 And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards;
    50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looks not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
    51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Excerpt 4:


                                I understand your logic but…   ~preterist

    2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, that the day of the Lord is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come the falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    4 Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
    5 Do you not remember, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
    2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    The generation spoke of below is the generation that see’s the abomination of desolation and tribulation.     ~RSNeaville
    Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    Where’s the resurrection?
    Where is the 1000 year reign?
    Where is the great white throne judgment?
    RSNeaville at
    Also on, search for rsneaville around 8 o’oclock central.

    Thursday, April 28, 2011

    Monday, April 25, 2011

    “Nothing to see here, move along…”

    Politicians invariably respond to crises — that in most cases they themselves created — by spawning new government programs, laws and regulations.

    These, in turn, generate more havoc and poverty, which inspires the politicians to create more programs . . . and the downward spiral repeats itself until the productive sectors of the economy collapse under the collective weight of taxes and other burdens imposed in the name of fairness, equality and do-goodism.

    Sunday, April 24, 2011

    It's Not About the Bunny

    It’s Not About the Bunny
    By Martha Matthews

    1 Peter 1:3-4 "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade–kept in heaven for you..."

    My son and I were at the drugstore when he noticed a bunch of big Easter baskets perched high on a shelf. The store manager had placed them there while the employees where moving out the Valentine’s merchandise.

    With great excitement he exclaimed, “I want one of those, Mommy, pleeeese!” The colorful baskets wrapped in shiny cellophane and filled with chocolate eggs, a fluffy white bunny and assorted toys was very enticing to my four year old. Then he said something that stopped me dead in my tracks. “Mommy, Easter is when the Easter Bunny comes.” “What did you just say?” I asked him. “Easter is when the Easter Bunny comes,” he repeated. Oh no, I thought. This is NOT good. I didn’t want him to think that an overgrown bunny bringing baskets of candy and eggs is what Easter is about. It was time for him to learn that Easter isn’t about the Bunny, it’s about the Lamb.

    Setting the Record Straight

    Many people are not aware that Easter has its roots in pagan religions. Hundreds of years before Christ appeared, Easter was celebrated as a festival honoring pagan fertility gods and the coming of spring. In fact the word “Easter” is the English translation of “Eostre” which is the name of an ancient Saxon fertility goddess. According to church historians, it wasn't until the second century that the rituals of these pagan festivals were altered and incorporated into a celebration of Christ’s resurrection.

    Today, when many Christians celebrate “Easter” their intention is that it be a celebration of Christ’s resurrection. Yet with the growing trend toward secularizing Easter, many Christians are finding it difficult to keep their children from being influenced. This was the case with our son. One of the things we have done to combat this pressure is to start referring to Easter as Resurrection Sunday. We feel that by calling it by a Biblical name that it will help us keep a spiritual focus.

    To read more, go here >> By Martha Matthews

    Friday, April 15, 2011

    Christians Duty Towards Authority

    Christians Duty Towards Authority Part 1

    From video description: “How to Know that God is in control. This was captured from chat room; what, according to the Word, shall be our stance towards those in authority. Through the scriptures by the Holy Spirit, to a unity of the faith and purity of the Gospel.
    Know that you aren't wrestling with the person you are wrestling the power behind them, and without submitting to God you can't win. See more at or, search for rsneaville in the ‘Search for Pal’ thing” (and
    no, I'm not him)

    Christians Duty Towards Authority Part 2

    Living and dying in Christ

    I don’t know either of these men, but I know they are my brothers.  I joy with them, I weep with them, we praise the Lord together.

    Watch this video and praise God with us.

    How Is It That God Desires To Be With Us!? - Bob Jennings

    John 17:24 - Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

    Monday, April 11, 2011

    Okay, what's up with the May. 21, 2011 thing?

    I did a ‘Okay, what's up with the Dec. 12, 2012 thing?’, so I thought I would also do a ‘Okay, what's up with the May. 21, 2011 thing?’

    This YouTube video by RS Neaville of  Explains why Camping is incorrect.

    Here is a short excerpt from Pirate Christian Radio’s Chris Rosebrough, where he reads a Newsweek article on where Harold Camping got his timing.



    Now, I know that Chris is quoting from a Newsweek article so if anyone has a link to an authoritative site on Harold Camping's reasoning, I will surely post it.

    Here is a site dedicated to refuting Harold Camping:

    Friday, April 8, 2011

    All Will Hear The Gospel.

     Revelation 14:6

    And I saw another angel fly in midheaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and tribe, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment has come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.


    Who confirms the covenant? Daniel 9:27

    Seems always some new twist. 

    So some guy said (with great fervor) that the one who confirms the covenant in Daniel 9:27 is Jesus, not the antichrist.

    Well, I totally disagree with that, one set of scriptures that defeats that argument is:  bible_light

    Daniel 11:36 (KJV) And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

    and is spoken of in:

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come the falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

    Jesus would never speak against God the Father so that disproves that twisting.

    Here are a couple of links: (… okay only one link but if you find more, just send me a note)

    Tuesday, March 29, 2011

    Ides of March

    Interesting… William Browning wrote:

    The Roman calendar had weird ways to determine times of the month. The Ides of March doesn't necessarily refer to a holiday or festival on the Roman calendar but instead talks about how the Romans told time in the year. The calendar was supposedly instituted by Romulus, the founder of Rome.

    The Ides marked the middle of the month according to the Information Please Almanac website. The calendar organized months around three days -- Kalends, Nones and Ides. Kalends noted the first of the month, so in modern terms the Kalends of June would be June 1. Nones served as the seventh day in March, May, July and October; it was the fifth in every other month. Ides were the middle of the month -- they were the 15th of March, May, July and October but the 13th in others.

    Days were noted by counting backwards from the upcoming monthly marker. For instance, Oct. 10 would be designated the "V Ides" or five days before the Ides of October. This method of dating lasted well into Medieval times before it was replaced with the Gregorian calendar used today

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    Sunday, March 27, 2011

    Is Water Baptism Required for Salvation?

    When I was told water baptism was required for salvation, I thought, ‘really…, is that true?’  Because I had never really thought about it. I had to look to be absolutely sure.

    What is a sign of salvation? The Holy Spirit living in you. 

    So is water baptism first before Holy Spirit baptism or the other way around?

    I thought, ‘well if I can find examples where people received the Holy Spirit before water baptism, then that would be that.’

    So I found Acts 10, the centurion and his household who received the Holy Spirit baptism but had not been water baptized, but later did get water baptized.

    Acts 10:24 And the next day they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.

    25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.

    26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

    27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.

    28 And he said unto them, You know that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God has showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

    29 Therefore I came unto you without questioning as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent you have sent for me?

    30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing,

    31 And said, Cornelius, your prayer is heard, and your alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God.

    32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call here Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the seaside: who, when he comes, shall speak unto you.

    33 Immediately therefore I sent to you; and you have done well that you are come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded you of God.

    34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

    35 But in every nation he that fears him, and works righteousness, is accepted with him.

    36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

    37 That word, I say, you know, which was published throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

    38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

    39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

    40 Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly;

    41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

    42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he who was ordained of God to be the Judge of the living and dead.

    43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believes in him shall receive remission of sins.

    44 While Peter yet spoke these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them who heard the word.

    45 And they of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

    47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we?

    48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to tarry certain days.

    I believe we can find more if we look but one is enough. 

    But wait, what about the guy on the next cross from Jesus, he wasn’t water baptized but he was saved. Some would say, ‘oh but that was Jesus.’…  but would Jesus break His own word?  No.


    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    There are many reasons why for in Acts 2:38 does not necessarily mean “in order to achieve” forgiveness of sins. The Greek word eis (“for”) can mean “because of,” “as a result of,” or “in light of.”

    “Acts 2:38  is one of the more controversial verses in the Bible regarding baptism and whether or not it is the requirement for salvation. 

    Some use this verse to say that one must be baptized in order to be saved. 

    But when you look at the verse, and others, you will see that it does not teach baptismal regeneration, that baptism saves, or that baptism is necessary for salvation.”

      >link>Baptism and Acts 2:38

    Baptism is a most important part of the Christian life. Since the earliest days, baptism has been consistently practiced by Christians to confirm their faith and relationship to Father, Son, And Holy Spirit.

    Certainly a person with a sincere saving faith will be baptized (or if they were baptized as an infant will acknowledge and cherish that fact). 

    Water baptism is a physical act that testifies to a spiritual event. But does the actual act of being baptized get one to heaven?

    >link> 101 Reasons Why Water Baptism is Not Necessary to be Saved

    Saturday, March 19, 2011

    Margaret McDonald and Pretrib Origins

    ~begin Grund comment:

    I’ve done it again… I have included politics in my blog.  When will I learn?

    The below post (below the ------ line) was done a week or so ago, Karl left a comment (thanks Karl) and got me looking more deeply into who started the pretrib thing.  Click this line to see Karl’s comment. 

    Karl brought to light (and the other articles I’ve now read about Lacunza, Edward Irving and the Irvanites, Darby, and a few others) that pretrib origin is cloudy and I was thinking what to post and then realized what I was doing, including politics. 

    Only this time it was called religion, arguing about ‘endless genealogies’.

    1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

    Does it *really* matter who started it all?  So I will end this post with this.

    Question: When is the last trump?      Ans. Right before Christ’s return.

    People use 1 Thes 4:16-17 to show pretrib.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Paul also wrote the below, describing the same event:

    1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    The trump of God and the last trump are the same, Christ returns at the end of the tribulation.

    Here are a few scriptures showing we will be here for the tribulation:

    POST TRIB SCRIPTURES - N.T. - MATTHEW 13: 24-30, 13:36-53, 24:13, 24:29-31, 24:37-41 - MARK 13:13, 13:24-27 - LUKE 17:26-30, 17:34-37 - JOHN 6:39, 40, 44, 54 11:24, 12:48, 16:33, 17:15 - ACTS 2:19-20, 14:22, - HEBREWS 9:28 - EPHESIANS 6:13 - 1 THESSALONIANS 4:15-17, 5:2-4 - 2 THESSALONIANS 1:6-10, 2-1-9 ROMANS 5:3 - 12:12 - 1 CORINTHIANS - 5:5, 15:51-57 - 2 CORTHINIANS 1:4 - REVELATION 1:7, 2:10, 2:26, 6:9-11, CH. 7:9-14, 10:7, 11:6-12, 12:12, 15:1,6-8, 16:1, 19: 11-21, 20:4-6
    O.T. - PSALM 37:9-11, 52:3-6 - PROVERBS 2:21-22, 3:25-26, 10:30 - ISAIAH 13:9-13, 26:21, EZEKIEL 13:20- JOB 14:12-15 - MALACHI 4:1-3

    Thanks to for the above.

    Stay in the faith, trust in the Lord! 

    ~end Grund comment


    Just to clear the air, I believe we will go through the tribulation.

    I heard a video called Rapture Madness with Guest Phil Elmore at 

    Here is a excerpt about Margaret McDonald and the origins of the pretrib illusion (Starts at time mark 1:34:10) from the Rapture Madness with Guest Phil Elmore video.

    I had heard of Margaret McDonald before as the origin of the pretrib rapture theory, but it turns out to be incorrect.

    Margaret’s vision was in 1830, first print was in 1840, the second print was 1861.

    Below (from Wikipedia) is the 1861 text with the 1840 text bolded, only the bolded text was in the original.

    MacDonald's utterance

    The first account of MacDonald's utterance was published in 1840 in Norton's Memoirs p. 171-176, and the second account in 1861 in The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets p. 15-18. The two accounts were conflated by MacPherson in his book The Incredible Cover-up p. 151-154. The bold text below is from the first account:

    "It was first the awful state of the land that was pressed upon me. I saw the blindness and infatuation of the people to be very great. I felt the cry of Liberty just to be the hiss of the serpent, to drown them in perdition. It was just 'no God.' I repeated the words, Now there is distress of nations, with perplexity, the seas and the waves roaring, men's hearts failing them for fear. Now look out for the sign of the Son of Man. Here I was made to stop and cry out, O it is not known what the sign of the Son of Man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light. I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man, even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people. Many passages were revealed, in a light in which I had not before seen them. I repeated, 'Now is the kingdom of Heaven like unto ten virgins, who went forth to meet the Bridegroom, five wise and five foolish; they that were foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them; but they that were wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.' 'But be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is; and be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.' This was the oil the wise virgins took in their vessels - this is the light to be kept burning - the light of God - that we may discern that which cometh not with observation to the natural eye. Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. 'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air. I saw that we must be in the Spirit, that we might see spiritual things. John was in the Spirit, when he saw a throne set in Heaven. But I saw that the glory of the ministration of the Spirit had not been known. I repeated frequently, but the spiritual temple must and shall be reared, and the fullness of Christ be poured into his body, and then shall we be caught up to meet him. Oh none will be counted worthy of this calling but his body, which is the church, and which must be a candlestick all of gold. I often said, Oh the glorious inbreaking of God which is now about to burst on this earth; Oh the glorious temple which is now about to be reared, the bride adorned for her husband; and Oh what a holy, holy bride she must he, to be prepared for such a glorious bridegroom. I said, Now shall the people of God have to do with realities - now shall the glorious mystery of God in our nature be known - now shall it be known what it is for man to be glorified. I felt that the revelation of Jesus Christ had yet to be opened up - it is not knowledge about God that it contains, but it is an entering into God - I saw that there was a glorious breaking in of God to be. I felt as Elijah, surrounded with chariots of fire. I saw as it were, the spiritual temple reared, and the Head Stone brought forth with shoutings of grace, grace, unto it. It was a glorious light above the brightness of the sun that shone round about me. I felt that those who were filled with the Spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing - so that two shall be in one bed, the one taken and the other left, because the one has the light of God within while the other cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation, surrounded by nets and entanglements, about to be tried, and many about to be deceived and fall. Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that if it were possible the very elect will be deceived - This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - but the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold.

    I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth, and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - for it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth, and an imitation for every work of the Spirit. The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he - when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will he outward trial too, but 'tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out. The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit - have the light of God in you, that you may detect Satan - be full of eyes within -be clay in the hands of the potter -submit to be filled, filled with God. This will build the temple. It is not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord. This will fit us to enter into the marriage supper of the Lamb. I saw it to be the will of God that all should be filled. But what hindered the real life of God from being received by his people, was their turning from Jesus, who is the way to the Father. They were not entering in by the door. For he is faithful who hath said, by me if any man enters in he shall find pasture. They were bypassing the cross, through which every drop of the Spirit of God flows to us. All power that comes not through the blood of Christ is not of God.

    When I say, they are looking from the cross, I feel that there is much in it - they turn from the blood of the Lamb, by which we overcome, and in which our robes are washed and made white. There are low views of God's holiness, and a ceasing to condemn sin in the flesh, and a looking from him who humbled himself, and made himself of no reputation. Oh! it is needed, much needed at present, a leading back to the cross. I saw that night, and often since, that there will be an outpouring of the Spirit on the body, such as has not been, a baptism of fire, that all the dross may be put away. Oh there must and will be such an indwelling of the living God as has not been - the servants of God sealed in their foreheads - great conformity to Jesus - his holy holy image seen in his people - just the bride made comely by his comeliness put upon her. This is what we are at present made to pray much for, that speedily we may all be made ready to meet our Lord in the air - and it will be. Jesus wants his bride. His desire is toward us. He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry. Amen and Amen Even so come Lord Jesus."

    To quote another person: “ you've seen it. Margaret McDonald describes a resurrection and catching away of the living saints - but WHERE, dear friends, is there any mention of a pre-trib Rapture in the above? Yet these LIARS will tell you that we got the Pre-Trib Rapture Doctrine FROM THIS VERY GIRL AND THIS VERY VISION!”

    Tuesday, March 15, 2011

    Okay, what's up with the Dec 12 2012 thing?

    First let me say, that no one knows the time.  This date setting is unbiblical.

    So, what's all the hoopla about, I asked myself.  What I found is quite simple, the Maya ‘long count calendar’ has been hijacked.

    The Maya's considered this ‘long count calendar’ as just that, a calendar to match their mythology.  They didn’t deal with fractional numbers so the calendar wasn’t accurate like today's but for its time it did the job.

    theThis fellow John Major Jenkins, author of 9 books on the Maya, he explains in a rational way. 

    If you just want to get to the 2012 thing, start at 7:10 time mark. 

    And he talks about this ‘hijacking’ (my word, btw) is related to the western mind set and not part of the Maya culture, even to this day.

    I quit watching around 11:00 minute time mark but he certainly showed his expertise in this area.

    If you look below the YouTube video you will see the sun in the middle of the dark band of the milky way and all that…

     Link to video


    Some of the things he talks about:














    Matthew 24:36,37 But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Saturday, January 15, 2011

    YWCA loses Christianity from title

    The Young Women's Christian Association, which is one of Britain's oldest charities, has dropped the word "Christian" from its name to better reflect its role in society.

    hmmmm, it certainly is a sign of the times…. ~grund

    Read more…

    Friday, January 14, 2011

    EU sends out three million 2011 calendar notebooks were printed at a cost of £4.4million to the taxpayer which list Muslim, Jewish, Chinese and Hindu holidays... but miss out Christmas and Easter

    euThe European Union has sent millions of diaries to schools which list the dates of Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Jewish and Chinese festivals - but omit any mention of Christian celebrations.  

    In an extraordinary move, three million 2011 notebooks were printed at a cost of £4.4million to the taxpayer. Around 350,000 of the diaries have already been shipped to schools in the UK alone.

    There is no record for Christmas, Easter or Lent - despite bureaucrats carefully listing the EU’s self-styled ‘Europe Day’ on May 9.

    Read More…

    Sunday, January 2, 2011

    Oh my, its been a while since I posted anything…

    I have know idea where I got this pic...

    Almost a year and a half… wow 

    I will start again. 

    Looking back I noticed that my posts were getting political, I do not like that I did that.  We are to be Christians and I am still up in the air about how far our political activism should go.  I’ll probably do a post on that.

    I have added that thing where you have to type in the letters you see to post a comment, because I was getting nasty spam stuff, but anonymous posts are still permitted. I hate having to join anything just to post a comment (but the ‘type the letters in the box’ thing is okay’.

    I have also deleted all the past comments (the good ones) by not knowing what I was doing… sorry about that.

    We will see how it goes…  ~grund